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06 November 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Just finished Hunters of Dune and kind of upset.  
 
I just finished Hunters of Dune and I must say that I am upset about a few elements in the story.  I actually enjoyed reading the book although I do think the writing is inferior to Frank Herbert's (his plotlines and stories had flaws as well).  However, one thing that puzzled me is if Murbella was taken as a child by the Honored Matres and then raised as one, how does she have them in her "other memory"?  It never said she was born of Honored Matres, just taken by them.  The biggest problem I have is with Daniel and Marty turning out to be machines from their previous novels (which I have not read yet).  In Chapterhouse Dune, they insinuate quite clearly that they are face dancers, that they were created by Tleilaxu masters and that the masters gave them the power to take the personas of other people.  I do not understand how Brian could have any respect for his father's work and just decide to totally rewrite it.  There is no way that I believe that Frank's notes contained these ideas as I don't think he would deviate from what he previously wrote like that.  I haven't read Sandworms yet but I am already let down that they are not face dancers but leftover robots from the jihad.  Very depressing.  That's my take. 
 
 
 
meicdon13 on November 7th, 2007 11:20 am (UTC)
Actually, Sandworms of Dune is also quite a letdown.
tashathtashath on December 28th, 2007 12:09 am (UTC)
I know that I’m late to respond but I just found this community. I agree with everything that you said. Have you read the prequels? While they are very good, in their own right there are still a lot of inconsistencies, now I understand that it’s hard to undertake someone else’s work, especially is that some one is Frank Herbert, but some things just really stood out, like the first meeting between Jessica and Leto.

I think it’s sad that we will never know where He intended to take Dune, there are so many questions left unanswered, even if they are working from his outline, an outline is not set in stone and often times stories take on a life of their own going in an completely opposite direction from where the writer meant to take them.

Pelzig: Kittypelzig on April 24th, 2008 07:41 pm (UTC)
Since it is unlikely we will see Frank Herbert's notes as he wrote them, we have no idea what he put down on paper and any guess is just that, speculation. We aren't privy to the notes so can we completely judge "Dune 7"?

I'm almost finished with "Hunters of Dune" and so far, I see a a very cyclic path occurring. Humans overthrow the machines and now the machines have returned to right the status quo. And the major players in human history are back, perhaps to sway the circle to the humans once more.

As I have not read "Sandworms of Dune", my analysis may be incorrect.

Though, concerning the writing style in the new book, the author made it clear he would not be copying Frank Hebert's style. I've only ever read "Dune" and "Chapterhouse:Dune" (used summaries for the rest) and found the first book a chore to read. Maybe it was my youth but I found his last book easier and more flowing, a trait I like in the new books.
The Great Obsessosehkmet22 on June 10th, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
Excuse the lateness, I just found this community.

The newer books are frought with inconsitencies regarding other memory:
- The aforementioned Murbella/Honored Matre issue.
- Serena Bulter (the only child of whom died as a toddler) in Sheana's memory
- The comment that no one on board the Ithica knows anything about Chani's childhood, when all the Bene Gesserit's should have her in their other memory (all were on Chapterhouse. All on Chapterhouse had to have Siona's blodd in them to insure secrecy of planet. Siona Atriedes was a descendant of Chani.)
and on and on.

The problems with the basic tenets of the original Dune books in the newer books really makes me dislike them.

I've vowed to not read Paul of Dune or any subsequent books.